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klik
Speaking as a graduating college student who's been a Pacific Bell DSL customer since around June 2000 I've noticed that the switch from Pacific Bell to SBC/Yahoo has left me (and literally tens of thousands of people) without any real webhosting which was included with DSL or dialup ISP service. With the switch to SBC/Yahoo I've become increasingly frustrated with the "Yahoo Briefcase" which has replaced the pages.pacbell.net disk space and the 4.95 a month "Geocities" hosting plan a slap in the face. I realize that I've taken my university account for granted. I've posted mp3 files of music I've created and photoshopped images I've made for other online forums on either my university space or the pacbell space in the past.
Now I can't just link files from a forum or another web page as both Geocities and Yahoo briefcase require you to be at their site to serve the files. I've created websites and parked them in the past for clients looking for an online presence parking the domain with the client's ISP like Verio or Pacbell (now SBC Hosting, separate from residential/business DSL accounts) but now all these people with their neglected webspace need separate hosting. I'm rather attached to my unix shell commands, my FTP program and minor league cgi-bin PERL scripts. I'd like to think that my content would be in some demand with peaks and valleys, but the webhosting choices I've seen are either some sort of "bargain hosting" very unreliable, "domain parking" which is very unforgiving for bandwidth or CPU fluctuation, or "business solution managed hosting" which equals spending what seems like an awful lot for what used to be free from the university or part of my ISP service. There wouldn't be any copyright issues or adult content, but the opportunity to post a 4MB file which might be in some demand for maybe a week or several 60k files which might receive 200-300 hits over a few hours then drop off the radar would be nice.
I know I'm not alone here, there's even a class-action suit against SBC/Yahoo for taking away customers' webspace and other issues. I either want to get in on the reseller game, or get a job working sales for a colocation or webhosting company and help people in my situation set up webspace that's flexible and reliable. Maybe hook myself up in the meantime...
Anybody know where I'm coming from? Or do I sound like every other person who calls up in search of webhosting? I do know what I want, I just don't know how to go about getting it.
Now I can't just link files from a forum or another web page as both Geocities and Yahoo briefcase require you to be at their site to serve the files. I've created websites and parked them in the past for clients looking for an online presence parking the domain with the client's ISP like Verio or Pacbell (now SBC Hosting, separate from residential/business DSL accounts) but now all these people with their neglected webspace need separate hosting. I'm rather attached to my unix shell commands, my FTP program and minor league cgi-bin PERL scripts. I'd like to think that my content would be in some demand with peaks and valleys, but the webhosting choices I've seen are either some sort of "bargain hosting" very unreliable, "domain parking" which is very unforgiving for bandwidth or CPU fluctuation, or "business solution managed hosting" which equals spending what seems like an awful lot for what used to be free from the university or part of my ISP service. There wouldn't be any copyright issues or adult content, but the opportunity to post a 4MB file which might be in some demand for maybe a week or several 60k files which might receive 200-300 hits over a few hours then drop off the radar would be nice.
I know I'm not alone here, there's even a class-action suit against SBC/Yahoo for taking away customers' webspace and other issues. I either want to get in on the reseller game, or get a job working sales for a colocation or webhosting company and help people in my situation set up webspace that's flexible and reliable. Maybe hook myself up in the meantime...
Anybody know where I'm coming from? Or do I sound like every other person who calls up in search of webhosting? I do know what I want, I just don't know how to go about getting it.
akashik
It's just my personal opinion, but I firmly believe Yahoo overestimated the requirements they'd have to live up to once they started charging for web hosting. Seems they were caught with their pants down and never really recovered.
There are a lot of web hosts out there now days for a modest monthly fee, but at the end of the day you should be looking for a decent fee for decent service.
Greg Moore
There are a lot of web hosts out there now days for a modest monthly fee, but at the end of the day you should be looking for a decent fee for decent service.
Greg Moore
northwindwebhost.com
Agreed, Yahoo isn't really a company you should be looking to get your site hosted.
Of course they haven't been down for a long time and probably have their servers managed 24/7 but can their staff support the questions and maintaining each account with the same amount of care?
Of course they haven't been down for a long time and probably have their servers managed 24/7 but can their staff support the questions and maintaining each account with the same amount of care?
Jaiem
Agreed. There's a big difference betweening running a site and hosting (more or less running) other people's sites.
OTOH, if Yahoo gets enough sign ups and later decides to dump that end of the business they might just sell the accounts to another large host, maybe CIHost.
OTOH, if Yahoo gets enough sign ups and later decides to dump that end of the business they might just sell the accounts to another large host, maybe CIHost.
klik
Considering how I was roped into the SBC/Yahoo unwillingly like so many other customers and then being told that The personal web pages would be taken away regardless and knowing that the clock is ticking on my university account has me asking these questions which may indicate the service or package I want or need.
I don't need any POP accounts really. I would like to be able to park 2 domains to start. 1 would be for the band. I'm guessing 10-15 dollars a month for basic hosting with bandwidth flexibility. This domain would have larger files like mp3 and mpeg videos (not adult, totally copyright legit.) and electronic press kit files and contracts like .pdf files. A cgi-bin form handler for mailing lists. No database needed. All commerce would be on third-party sites. This domain would do just fine at 150 megs of disk space and 7-10 GB of bandwidth but the ability to handle say 50 megs in 4 or 5 hours if it were to come up would be essential. A bonus would be streaming mp3s and quicktime.
The second domain would be where I could stage sites for development like a php CMS site. I could try out different modules or scripts. This site would be heavy on the processor time compared to the band site, but would mainly be used to make sure all the elements and modules are running off the Apache or FreeBsd or whatever the host servers run. 20-50 megs of storage, 3-5GB Bandwidth. Possible e-commerce package but just to test function and design. I see myself using either a control panel and my ftp to manage the site and I'd need to be able to keep an eye on bandwidth and traffic for both sites. That's it.
Then if I wanted to bring new clients or ones I already have over to the host, I'm comfortable with the tools, reliability, tech support and services. I've shopped around and I don't see anyplace that customizes the services that specifically. I think There will be a fair number of former pacbell DSL clients like myself who would rather have a reliable, reccomended host than to get squeezed by SBC/Yahoo any further. In vBulletin speak are we talking
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Cheers
I don't need any POP accounts really. I would like to be able to park 2 domains to start. 1 would be for the band. I'm guessing 10-15 dollars a month for basic hosting with bandwidth flexibility. This domain would have larger files like mp3 and mpeg videos (not adult, totally copyright legit.) and electronic press kit files and contracts like .pdf files. A cgi-bin form handler for mailing lists. No database needed. All commerce would be on third-party sites. This domain would do just fine at 150 megs of disk space and 7-10 GB of bandwidth but the ability to handle say 50 megs in 4 or 5 hours if it were to come up would be essential. A bonus would be streaming mp3s and quicktime.
The second domain would be where I could stage sites for development like a php CMS site. I could try out different modules or scripts. This site would be heavy on the processor time compared to the band site, but would mainly be used to make sure all the elements and modules are running off the Apache or FreeBsd or whatever the host servers run. 20-50 megs of storage, 3-5GB Bandwidth. Possible e-commerce package but just to test function and design. I see myself using either a control panel and my ftp to manage the site and I'd need to be able to keep an eye on bandwidth and traffic for both sites. That's it.
Then if I wanted to bring new clients or ones I already have over to the host, I'm comfortable with the tools, reliability, tech support and services. I've shopped around and I don't see anyplace that customizes the services that specifically. I think There will be a fair number of former pacbell DSL clients like myself who would rather have a reliable, reccomended host than to get squeezed by SBC/Yahoo any further. In vBulletin speak are we talking
, , or Cheers
jnyost
I agree. Words couldn't explain the anger I have towards Yahoo for so many reasons. They exploit everyone and everthing they touch. Their listing prices are ridiculous!!!!! I'll never use them for anything again.
Jared
Jared