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ardit
Is it possible to have 2 different domains hosted in the same host account? If yes how can I find out which of them does?
Mr Chunder
For dedicated servers, anything possible

For virtual accounts - some hosts will allow several domains to point to the same account.

However, if they don't and you are talking about 2 separate websites on one account, then this could be done using URL forwarding. i.e. one website is the default in that hosting account and the other site sits in a subdirectory in that hosting account. So, one domain is the official domain for that account and the other is logged with a URL forwarding service that simply redirects to the subdirectory of the second website.

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If yes how can I find out which of them does?


Didn't understand this bit. Do you mean given 2 domains, how can you work out where they are hosted ?
ardit
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Originally posted by Mr Chunder
For dedicated servers, anything possible

For virtual accounts - some hosts will allow several domains to point to the same account.

However, if they don't and you are talking about 2 separate websites on one account, then this could be done using URL forwarding. i.e. one website is the default in that hosting account and the other site sits in a subdirectory in that hosting account. So, one domain is the official domain for that account and the other is logged with a URL forwarding service that simply redirects to the subdirectory of the second website.

Will the visitor notice that you are hosting 2 domains in the same account? Let's say they will be taken to the subdirectory, won't there be the main domain in the address bar lets say www.domain.com/ardit/ and not the URL that they entered. Because if this happens while navigating the website they'll be moving through an website with a domain that they didn't type. I think forwarding is good when you change you host so your visitors won't lose your website until dsn config show up on the web.


Didn't understand this bit. Do you mean given 2 domains, how can you work out where they are hosted ?
Nope. What do I have to look in an host information to understand that they can host to domains indipendently in the same account?




Thanks
Mr Chunder
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Will the visitor notice that you are hosting 2 domains in the same account? Let's say they will be taken to the subdirectory, won't there be the main domain in the address bar lets say www.domain.com/ardit/ and not the URL that they entered.


Yes, they will notice the redirect. I believe that most redirects are done by asking the browser to go somewhere so the browser knows the new location and thus displays it.

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Because if this happens while navigating the website they'll be moving through an website with a domain that they didn't type.


So what? I presume you are trying to save cash by hosting 2 domains on the same virtual account. This is going to look cheap anyway. Other option is to spawn a new IE window with the address bar removed (85% of users use IE)

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I think forwarding is good when you change you host so your visitors won't lose your website until dsn config show up on the web.


Absolutely.

Just why are you trying to do this ?
ardit
To save $$$
I saw a host that offered something like that (I'l find it).
I'm new to this stuff but because I have seen that most of them say one IP address so you can point the domain to the IP lets say Http://232.238.43.23/thenightbeast wouldn't that be a good idea but... if they try only the IP they'll get the main domain.

I'll find that host...but I think it costed like 15 for setup and 1/month for one domain. Their plans weren't that good either.
bbhi
I do it with a virtual hosting service running MS IIS :

All domain names require a name server that returns IP address.

I have 1 virtual server - www.808news.com

I registered additional domains via Registerfly.com which provides free nameserver for domains you register with them.

So: www.modemsite.com www.forum56.com www.fixrr.com www.hawaiirr.com and www.rrhawaii.com all resolve to the same IP as www.808news.com.

The default page on the virtual server - index.asp - contains server-side code that examines the Server_Name sent by the browser, and re-directs to the appropriate top page for the domain being requested. The browser continues to display the original domain name.

Aloha,
Richard
ardit
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Originally posted by bbhi
I do it with a virtual hosting service running MS IIS :

All domain names require a name server that returns IP address.

I have 1 virtual server - www.808news.com

I registered additional domains via Registerfly.com which provides free nameserver for domains you register with them.

So: www.modemsite.com www.forum56.com www.fixrr.com www.hawaiirr.com and www.rrhawaii.com all resolve to the same IP as www.808news.com.

The default page on the virtual server - index.asp - contains server-side code that examines the Server_Name sent by the browser, and re-directs to the appropriate top page for the domain being requested. The browser continues to display the original domain name.

Aloha,
Richard


What do you mean by free nameserver ( I think you should point the ns to your host)?
I don't know anything about asp where can I get some help on how to this.
This is maybe the best option I've until now.

Thanks 4 your help.
Ardit
ardit
I think I found one
http://www.pair.com/pair/shared/
It says:
"- Add as many domains as you like; no separate accounts required"
Does this mean that I can host as many domains as I want in the same account and it won't be noticed at all?
bbhi
--> What do you mean by free nameserver

www.registerfly.com

Hosting service will normally provide nameserver for your domain; Mine charges $5/mo for additional names on their nameserver.

But, you don't have to use their nameserver. As I said before, Registerfly provides you with nameserver for domains you register or transfer to them. IOW, if your domain is registered elsewhere, you can't use their nameserver; if you transfer it to them, then you can.


As to the Host Service you mention - look at the fine print - $1/month + $15 setup for each add'l domain you host on your account. That's more expensive than the $9.99 annual registration & free nameserver from Registerfly.

As to a hosting service, in my opinion, www.Intermedia.net is hard to beat for NT/IIS/ASP hosting.
ardit
I'm new to this kind of things so this may look stupid. What is a nameserver, how can you profit from the free nameserver that the fly offers to you. What I know is that when I got my first domain and I hosted it for free with portland I changed my nameserver in the domain controller to ns1 smth portland.
bbhi
1. You register a domain name.

2. Part of the registration is what nameserver you use.
The nameserver is responsible for returning the IP address that's really used to access anything on the Internet. In order for your domain name to work, it's got to be on a nameserver somewhere.

3. You get a hosting service. They will tell you to change your domain registration to use their name server, and they'll make an entry in their nameserver for your domain.

As long as you use a service which gives you a static IP, you can then register another domain name with a registar, and you do not have to add it to your hosting service/nameserver if you put it on another nameserver. Not all registars offer nameserver service - but the one I mentioned above does. So, when you register a new domain with them, your online account management screen allows you to specify their nameserver and the IP address of your virtual server.

You make your default virtual server page an ASP script that redirects to the appropriate page depending upon the URL the browser sent.
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